is Gynarchy political?

A while ago i posted about the US election. Thinking about it later, i realised that i had implicitly assumed that most of the people reading a blog about Gynarchy would lean towards the Liberal side of that (or any other) debate. i’ve no evidence that they don’t, but living as i do in a European bubble, i could easily have that all wrong.

My assumption was based on the fact that conservatives by definition tend to hold a traditional view of the role of Women. As Gynarchy promotes the opposite, it is tempting to think of it as a progressive idea. But is that true?

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Certainly there is a strand in Female-supremacist thinking which is aligned with what i grew up thinking of as a Wiccan world-view, which is to say, the Goddess Movement angle. It isn’t really a movement, because it is too diffuse, but in so far as it is political at all, it feels deep Left to me.

 

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Looked at another way, though, Gynarchy surely has an element of authoritarianism (‘the enforcement or advocacy of strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom,’ as Google has it), even if the vision of the Two Ronnies (right) is a bit off-target. In that sense, it is anything but Liberal.

So many questions.

What does a conservative man with an instinct for Women on pedestals do with those desires?  Is there a tension there, and if so, how is it reconciled? Is it like being a gay Catholic? Come to think of it, what about a conservative Woman who feels that way? Or is it the case that, if that’s how you are by nature, you’re just not a conservative?

Let’s do a survey. If you’re a believer in Female Supremacy, let us know in the comments below where your politics lie. A simple ‘left’ or ‘right’ (or “stop it and get back to droning on about books, will,”) will do.

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16 thoughts on “is Gynarchy political?

  1. right wing here. but really gynarchy transcends all modern politics.

    obsolete patriarchal traditions must be dissolved and replaced with the primordial matriarchy. many people say that left/right split serves little purpose. basically stop thinking in terms of obsolete dualities which are masculine and created by men. but think outside the box, and combine progressive feminism and liberation with traditionalist chivalry and hierarchy. take the best, most empowering aspects from all sides.

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  2. I’m left of center (far left for an American anyway) and most of the women of my life (Mother, Sister, Wife) are somewhere on the left as well. I have known a few gynarchists of both sexes who might be described as economically conservative and socially libertarian (American usage of the terms). I think gynarchy can fit, more or less comfortably with a number of political positions. And there are those (I’m thinking of one of my wife’s friends) who are apolitical, or claim to be.

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  3. I’m very left, politically. I support Gynarchy, but I imagine that it would be egalitarian and democratic *for Women*, the main difference is that males would not have political power and would be excluded from any political decision making. I’ve seen the word “Gynocracy” to describe this.

    From a male point of view, it would be authoritarian, but ultimately for the greater good of the liberation of Women.

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  4. What is left, right, conservative or liberal in politics depends very much on country you look at. In Russia it is the communists that are considered conservative, which just shows that also in politics everything is relative.
    I am a 35 year old woman, lesbian, university educated, self-employed and relatively well off. I strongly and for many good reasons, that not need to be mentioned on this site, believe that gynarchy is the natural order and also a necessity.
    Politically the ideal is a strong and authoritarian matriarchal state with market economy. Women should have the vote already from the age of 15 or 16 but men should be denied all civil rights, be owned by women, only be given subordinate jobs and be submitted to strict control and stern leadership.

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  5. I personally don’t use current political terms to describe the politics of Gynarchy. “Left” and “right” are terms invented at a time patriarchy was dominant and describe policies of patriarchic leadership. If I have to describe Gynarchy with these terms, I would say that it would include left policies in some issues (social progress, environment, animal rights etc) and right policies in some issues (containment of men and law enforcement for their crimes, especially against Women and children). In any case I expect Gynarchy to completely change politics and the way we talk about them.

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  6. Gynarchy naturally is political. How could it not be political when it is all about changing our societies, disrupting and breaking down the patriarchal structures, creating new societies building on female norms, values and standards, excluding men from holding positions of power and establishing matriarchal governance?
    Terms like left, right, liberal, conservative and even socialist are meaningless unless we define them before using them. If you ask a Russian what it means to be conservative you will get the answer that a conservative is someone who wants the communist party back in power and thinks nostalgically of Stalin. This is surely not how an American defines conservatism and in most of Europe, conservatives are in favour of a strong government but economic liberalism. Being liberal in Europe means to be in favour of the economic theory called liberalism and against privileges. American conservatives consider European welfare states as socialist although these states clearly are capitalistic and typically conduct their economies very liberalistic.
    So all these words are very relative and only suitable for confusing discussions and accusing the opposition of being something that you do not like.
    One thing seems clear and that is that since we gynarchists want fundamental changes of the existing societies and to wipe out the faltering but still annoyingly powerful patriarchal cultural structures we cannot be called conservative.
    The two words I would choose to politically define gynarchy are authoritarian and caring. The upcoming gynarchsist societies will have elements of all the now used political ideologies and political and economic theories but because gynarchy is building solely on female values it fundamentally is caring. In order to keep the men in their place and take good care also of them, the gynarchy must also both culturally and in practical governance involve strong aspects of authoritarianism.

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    1. Intriguing. I consider myself conservative (right) in that my basic thinking is for smaller government and more personal independence. However, I believe women should have the right to choose in a pregnancy. I see that as independence but the topic is blurred with conservative views.
      I am not an advocate for gynarchy but I endorse any person (male or female) who can do the job well (and in government – keeping it minimal)

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  7. Gynarchy means “government by women” and government by women naturally means a matriarchal and maternalistic society where typically female traits are paramount in government and administration.
    How this could or should involve “more personal independence” for a man is beyond me.
    There is still a long way to go but every day we gain ground and increase our empowerment. Every day we outmatch the males. Every day we gain power and authority by disrupting and breaking down patriarchal structures. Every day an increasing number of female values and standards become the ruling norms in homes, work places and society in general. So gynarchy is coming and every day an increasing number of men find themselves marginalised and deprived of independence and power.
    It is a natural development that cannot be stopped and the best thing men can do is to embrace female rule and female authority in all aspects of life.
    The patriarchy has been a pest and now it is collapsing. It is collapsing because in today’s world men are really no longer needed but are in general more a disturbance than an asset to society.
    With a few generations the most advanced, powerful and prosperous societies will be gynarchies where men are subjected to female authority and care. The number of men will have been reduced to a convenient level and men will be kept and occupied in subordinate jobs and roles.

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  8. Thank You. Personally i would hope Gynarchy can find a path to being matriarchal without being maternalistic, and men subject to Female authority more than Female care. we will need to become powerless without becoming useless (or needy, or burdensome) and that is a difficult path to navigate. we are indeed being marginalised surprisingly quickly and easily – will we stay on the margins, or can we find a way to genuine subservience at the heart of a Gynarchy?

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    1. You men cannot find the way and on the route to gynarchy, lots of men will be castaways.
      You are, as you notice, marginalised quickly and easily. In fact you already today are unneeded. We could make things work without you and even for reproduction, you are unneeded. As female values and standards replace the patriarchal norms, as women outmatch men in education and as women gain control at all levels and in all aspects of society men as a group and as individuals fast become disturbing annoyances. An increasing number of women prefer living without a man and an increasing number of workplaces prefer female employees at all levels. Everywhere in society men now experience being pressed out and marginalised by women and these marginalised men obviously are surplus and a burden on society.
      However, this does not mean that men will not have a place in the coming gynarchy but the in transitional process to matriarchal rule a large number of men will unavoidably be lost. To assure female authority and control must be the first priority and to formulate a new role for the secondary and subordinate sex is something that comes long down on the list of priorities.
      Though men already now not are a necessity keeping a limited number of men will still in the matriarchal society be useful and convenient. Also in the gynarchy, there will be heavy, dirty and menial work that is suitable for men and many women and female communities will want to keep men as domestic and other kinds of servants.
      The reduction of the male population will come naturally as result of two tendencies.
      The first is that as most women will prefer living as singles artificial insemination will soon become the commonly preferred way of getting pregnant. Artificial insemination will, for lesbians too, be a clean, clinical, aesthetic and in many ways practical solution that enable the woman to plan her pregnancy and also to chose semen from a donor with the preferred genetic profile.
      It then comes only naturally that the child also should be the right sex.
      In the matriarchal society where female values and standards are dominant, being female will be the predominant norm and see as right but being male will be low status, wrong and excluding.
      The tendency will be that women opt out of giving birth to male babies and the male population will be reduced to a suitable level.
      Maybe it after a while will be necessary to have breeding programs to ensure a sufficient production of males.
      Also in matriarchal societies, the governments first duty will be to ensure security for the population. To a significant extent, this goal will already be reached when the male population is reduced to a suitable level but the males in the matriarchal society will have a completely different status than what males have now. Their purpose will be to serve women and serve society and they will be deprived of all privileges, rights and personal freedom and liberties. They will basically be a kind of livestock that can be traded, given away, pledged as security and inherited etcetera.
      The specific rules regarding males will vary and communities will be able to set and enforce regulations, as for instance curfews, more limiting than the general rules.
      Some men will face a life working in chain gangs or sweatshops, other will be servants and some will be pampered pets but they will all be registered and it will at all times be clear to whom the individual male belongs and who is responsible for him.
      Owners of males will have an interest in taking good care of them just as owners of cattle and other animals, whether they are farm animals or pets, have an interest in taking good care of their animals. And no doubt males in the matriarch will enjoy a minimum of legal protection just as animals by law are protected against cruelty.

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